Comments on: HTTP Utilities with CherryPy http://blog.dowski.com/2009/01/08/http-utilities-with-cherrypy/ Unfortunately, Christian had a Thwart, and the Magpie stayed in play. Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:38:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Eric Florenzano http://blog.dowski.com/2009/01/08/http-utilities-with-cherrypy/comment-page-1/#comment-112114 Eric Florenzano Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:14:28 +0000 http://blog.dowski.com/?p=264#comment-112114 Thanks for the fantastic response! I think everyone will agree that your solution is a *lot* more readable than mine, just as Tim Parkin's is. We should do some sort of shootout that looks at a bunch of different ways of implementing this, lets you look at them side-by-side, and compares performance. That would be quite cool. Thanks for the fantastic response! I think everyone will agree that your solution is a *lot* more readable than mine, just as Tim Parkin’s is. We should do some sort of shootout that looks at a bunch of different ways of implementing this, lets you look at them side-by-side, and compares performance. That would be quite cool.

]]> By: Robert Brewer http://blog.dowski.com/2009/01/08/http-utilities-with-cherrypy/comment-page-1/#comment-112113 Robert Brewer Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:37:03 +0000 http://blog.dowski.com/?p=264#comment-112113 /me invites Tim to apply all that knowledge and effort on the CherryPy dev team, now that he's written one alone. It's what I did. ;) /me invites Tim to apply all that knowledge and effort on the CherryPy dev team, now that he’s written one alone. It’s what I did. ;)

]]> By: christian http://blog.dowski.com/2009/01/08/http-utilities-with-cherrypy/comment-page-1/#comment-112112 christian Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:44:42 +0000 http://blog.dowski.com/?p=264#comment-112112 Thanks for the comments guys. @Eric - Yeah, the more nice stuff you add, the slower it gets I'm sure. Probably mostly due to Python object initialization and function/method call overhead. @Tim - Glad you liked the post. 'restish' looks interesting. One of the CP devs (lakin) just introduced some subcontroller dispatch that looks similar to your resource.child feature. As far as bottlenecks go, I think for CherryPy they are probably in some of the additional features it provides, and boiling down to what I mentioned to Eric - object/method/function overhead. Just Python being Python - not the fastest but definitely prettier than the competition. Thanks for the comments guys.

@Eric - Yeah, the more nice stuff you add, the slower it gets I’m sure. Probably mostly due to Python object initialization and function/method call overhead.

@Tim - Glad you liked the post. ‘restish’ looks interesting. One of the CP devs (lakin) just introduced some subcontroller dispatch that looks similar to your resource.child feature.

As far as bottlenecks go, I think for CherryPy they are probably in some of the additional features it provides, and boiling down to what I mentioned to Eric - object/method/function overhead. Just Python being Python - not the fastest but definitely prettier than the competition.

]]> By: Tim Parkin http://blog.dowski.com/2009/01/08/http-utilities-with-cherrypy/comment-page-1/#comment-112111 Tim Parkin Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:19:32 +0000 http://blog.dowski.com/?p=264#comment-112111 Hi Christian! I like the blog post.. I didn't realise CherryPy let you get away with typing so little! I've responded with a similar app written using our newish restish app at http://dev.timparkin.co.uk/2009/01/happy-medium-from-wsgi-to-cherrypy.html I agree with you not liking benchmarking but it's contagious! I want to know where our app is bottlenecking now and I wasn't bothered in the slightist before! Out of interest, where do you think CherryPy is spending most of it's time? Hi Christian! I like the blog post.. I didn’t realise CherryPy let you get away with typing so little! I’ve responded with a similar app written using our newish restish app at http://dev.timparkin.co.uk/2009/01/happy-medium-from-wsgi-to-cherrypy.html

I agree with you not liking benchmarking but it’s contagious! I want to know where our app is bottlenecking now and I wasn’t bothered in the slightist before! Out of interest, where do you think CherryPy is spending most of it’s time?

]]> By: Eric Larson http://blog.dowski.com/2009/01/08/http-utilities-with-cherrypy/comment-page-1/#comment-112110 Eric Larson Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:42:16 +0000 http://blog.dowski.com/?p=264#comment-112110 I usually use straight WSGI as well, but as Kevin Dangoor said in the comments of Eric's blog, I use webob and Selector for my URL dispatching. There are definitely degrees of how to use these tools, but I'd wonder how much the benchmarks change based on what sorts of helpers you write. For example automatically passing in a request and response object or simply adding dispatching based on Selector vs Routes. I usually use straight WSGI as well, but as Kevin Dangoor said in the comments of Eric’s blog, I use webob and Selector for my URL dispatching. There are definitely degrees of how to use these tools, but I’d wonder how much the benchmarks change based on what sorts of helpers you write. For example automatically passing in a request and response object or simply adding dispatching based on Selector vs Routes.

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